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October 20, 2004

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PZ Myers

Why pick on us Minnesotans? I'm bewildered by the fact that this whole damn country seems to be on the brink of re-electing a miserable failure of a president. Ask instead how the US got into such a gullible and anti-intellectual state.

Mal Snay

>>Why pick on us Minnesotans?

You don't hit back?

Kidding! Ow.

Nick Simmonds

I'm just amazed that Bush is carrying Indiana by less than 20. Woohoo, go Hoosiers! We're making progressish sort of things!

Thomasina

Well, to be fair, Oregon is a swing state also.

I've just adopted MN recently, so I don't have a long history here, but I think there are a couple possibilities. People here seem less likely to vote a party line -- witness the rise of the rise of the Independence Party (aka Jesse Ventura). And the Green Party won 5.2% of the vote in the last presidential election, even higher than California. Another possibility is the metropolitan / exurb split -- the outer ring has expanded enormously in the past five years.

Also, polls are going to be a lot less reliable in states like Minnesota, where people can register to vote on election day. Anyone can just roll out of bed, show the proper ID at their polling place, sign the rolls, and cast a ballot. I've voted in every election, and I've never bothered to register formally.

Even though they are officially swing states, in my heart of hearts I really can't see Oregon, Minnesota, and Wisconsin going for Bush.

New Kid on the Hallway

Yes, MN has grown more conservative over the last 10 years or so - witness the election of Coleman (and various elections in the mid-90s). And the DFL has lost a lot of ground in the essentially conservative rural areas (MN's one of those states that tends to be characterized by its urban center - the Twin Cities - but the rest of the state is EXTREMELY different).

Jimbo at the cul-de-sac just did a great post about this.

Kai Jones

Oregon being a swing state is really rolling my mind. Portland metro area is so solidly Democratic--did the rest of the state gain population or something?

Lizzie Lawry

NPR just did a full analysis of the Minnesota situation on All Things Considered last night. Surprise surprise, the issue has largely to do with the 'burbs. There is also the Wellstone conspiracy theory to consider, which many Minnesotans believe true.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4121123

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