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Amy P

Here's what Loh's final quote (about the family moving) is talking about:

"Take the mini-autobiography proffered by Steiner, a graduate of Harvard and Wharton, the general manager of The Washington Post Magazine, and the former Johnson & Johnson executive who was responsible for the international launch of Splenda. Her dilemma, she explains, was being married to an investment banker who kept getting ever more attractive jobs in ever new places. The crisis came when he was "offered the presidency of a hot Internet start-up," which would require a family move to Minneapolis. The pain of it had Steiner lying on the parquet floor in her beloved Upper West Side, fighting tears: "Within a ten-minute walk lay my son's favorite playground, my sister's apartment, my in-laws' condo, Gymboree, a pediatrician as kindly as Big Bird, five or six Starbucks, the Reebok gym, and at least a dozen museums." But no. "My husband calmly explained that we were very lucky and really had to go. Millions of dollars in stock options, he said.""

I realize we are supposed to point and laugh at this, but I feel sorry for Steiner! Her husband sounds like a real ogre to be demanding this kind of sacrifice, unless the family was faced with destitution if they didn't move.

Amy P

One thing that's been bugging me for quite some time is the casual assumption that once enough women reach the top, things will magically improve from women on the bottom. It reminds me of an old joke about a bunch of friends who pool their savings to send one of their number (a solipsist) for a vacation to Hawaii, reasoning, "If he goes, we all go!" Well, no.

jen

I did kind of laugh at Steiner. Minneapolis is awesome. And I'm a native new yorker. please. The upper west side is not All That. However, I agree with your point about the husband. Unless you are an army wife in general, people talk about this and figure out what's best for the family and economics is not the only reason to move or not to move, obviously.

monboddo

I loved the piece, too -- there is just a sense underlying it of Loh finally losing all patience with these people. But there is something strange about the quoted bit from Steiner; her husband insists they have to move to (gasp) Minnesota, and she whines, and mopes, and ... that's it because her husband insists. One would expect a woman like Steiner to, oh, fight, or do something more than just fold when her husband says they really have to move. Leaves one wondering how reliable Steiner's story really is.

Laura

Yes. So, Steiner is in a relationship with a guy who calls all the shots. He moves the family against Steiner's wishes and not because they are starving or anything. Just so they can move from being upper middle class to rich. It is sad that Steiner has so little power in the family. So little hand, as Seinfield would say. It's sad that her husband's values are so out of wack. It's sad that Steiner isn't flexible enough to embrace the chilly but cool Minneapolis.

Don't get me wrong. Work is a fine thing. I'm humming a happy song all today thinking about my adjunct class for the fall.

But it's the next leap that gets Loh and myself. It's just a stretch to go from "needing to work to get some hand or sanity or whatever" to "working to further the goals of all womankind".

Amy P

For me, too, coming from a family full of housewives, farmers and small business people (evil conservatives, all) it is simply inconceivable that a woman could have so little say in her and her family's future. I've seen women argue that they need a job in order to have a say in their own families, but never really believed that that kind of marriage existed among educated urban families. Well, now I believe.

I'm sure Minneapolis is a wonderful place (Lileks certainly thinks so, at least half the year). What is unforgivable is asking a woman to uproot her home, move away from family and friends, just to make a well-off family more well-off.

Elizabeth

From her blog, it's clear that Steiner and her husband have a pretty asymmetrical relationship -- she did a little dance a few weeks ago because for the first time ever her husband cancelled a business trip because she had a conflicting obligation.

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