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June 11, 2008

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MH

I think my school offered that year to men. Either way you go, you have issues. Offering to hold the clock for men advantages those who don't actually intend to take the leave, but not offering it men puts a huge block in the way of any man who does want to take on more family responsibilities.

bj

I think many universities offer the year off the clock to men as well as women. Not doing so would reinforce the social construct of gender segregation (if a mother, but not a father could get a extension, then a family would have no choice but to have the mother take the main responsibility for the children).

I think it's a trap to assume that child-bearing itself is short lived, though. It's true that in a lifetime it is. But, if you have a couple of kids and breastfeed them, you're taking a 4 year biological hit (which will vary in degree of effect for different women).

bj

Greg Weeks

We shouldn't generalize too much. My university provides a semester off for men or women, plus the option to turn off the tenure clock. I stayed home and worked only at naptimes, and I know male colleagues who have done the same. It can perhaps be abused, but I haven't seen it.

MH

I tried to work during naptimes, but I quickly realized that I'd better nap myself.

WendyW

Well, breastfeeding as sole nourishment isn't a 2-year process. For a few it's a one year process. More often, it's a 6-to-9 month process. And for babies with grandmother-babysitters from a different era who think babies should be fed cereal as soon as possible to help them "sleep" longer, it's even shorter. Uh, speaking hypothetically.

bj

I meant childbearing + breastfeeding as a 2 year process.

laura

Yeah, sorry didn't mean to take down all guys with that comment. I just heard that it's happening.

MH

Laura, didn't think you were taking men down with that comment. I've heard one (single, untenured) man make that complaint about another man who just became a father (though I don't know how the father used his leave). I just think the whole area is a confusing mess, and not just in academia.

Doug spots comment spam

All that spam, no vikings in sight.

laura

I think we need a viking post.

Steph

My university gave me a semester off, then my husband a semester off, after the birth of our second child in October. So this is becoming more and more common, and thank God for it. But, believe me. He is not getting any "leg up" in the tenure process out of the deal (there's a kind of weird, vaguely sexist assumption woven in there, BTW). He would kill to be using that time to "do research". That's a fantasy. He's a full-time dad, and that's all he has time for now that I am back teaching this semester. But nevertheless, I find two problems with the above. The first is that one of the great surprises of becoming a mother was that my assumption that because I have a fully supportive and fully participatory husband the job of child rearing would be 50-50. It turns out, and I was truly dumfounded by this (maybe I'm naive, but I was)...despite his being with our children all day and being as fully engaged as a father can possibly be short of breast feeding, those kids still prefer their mother. This is understandably frustrating for me, and my husband especially, poor guy!! So it's not entirely a cultural or social construction that we could just obliterate had we the will. There is something biological in there, something that I never expected, whether it's the carrying the baby in the womb aspect and some primordial memory of that the child has, or the breast feeding, or the softer voice and non-scratchy cheeks, I really have no idea. I'm as baffled by it as anyone else, but let me tell you, it is real, much to BOTH my husband's and my chagrin. Those kids just want their mama. Not sure what any institution, no matter how much good will, can really do about that. Sigh...

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